Time for Disclosure: An interview with Clare Cusack - The Life Healer
- Feb 23
- 18 min read
Updated: Mar 11
What first drew you into CE5? How did that initial experience shape your path?
Clare: I’d seen Danica Patrick interview Elizabeth April which I really enjoyed so decided to see who else she was interviewing. An interview with Dr. Greer came up, and I found it really interesting. I found him really compelling.
Then I thought, “Well, let me just dive a bit deeper.” He seemed to be speaking a truth I didn’t know I needed to hear . So I was like, “Who is this guy?” I watched the films and got more interested. And with every film and every interview, I just got more and more intrigued and I really wanted to meet this guy.
The first event that came up was the DPIA ( Disclosure Project Intelligence archive) briefing. So it was more intellectual curiosity than practical CE5 at that stage. It felt like, “There’s some truth here. What is it?”
Around the same time I was watching these interviews, I started seeing this ball of fire in the sky outside on the horizon, from my living room. It would catch my attention out of the corner of my eye. I was like, “What is that?” And it was one ball of fire… then two, then three or four. Then I’d get this intuition—go and look out the window now—and they’d be there. I was like, “What are these things? What’s going on?”
So whatever that was, it inspired me to take it further. I attended the workshop at the DPIA , and on one night-maybe the fourth night-I hung back because I wanted to show him these videos of the “ball of fire” I’d been seeing. Because I hung back (there were just a couple of us), he ( Greer) said, “I’ve got some land nearby, we’re going out there. Why don’t you come?”
He drove us up to the land, about a 10–15 minute drive from the retreat center where we were doing the talks. We went off-road and zig-zagged up to the top of this hill. It’s set in something like two million acres of forest.
As soon as we arrived, I looked up and I saw a golden ball of light with a gold trail and an orange trail. “Oh my God—what’s that?” Lera saw it and Raven saw it and we were all like, “Oh my God.” And then it vanished.
That’s when I got really interested in starting to do CE5.
What year was that?
Clare: (2024)
I’d always shied away from the intergalactic side of things. I connected with beings in a development circle I ran where I would channel but I’d been so turned off by the UFO community. I found the whole thing disturbing and fake, until the time was right for me to come across Greer for the first time. And then I was like, “Oh hang on a second. This guy makes sense!!!”
I’d come across Bashar and I liked Bashar because I channeled an intergalactic being myself, but I hadn’t been able to find anyone who could bridge that gap for me in the way Greer did.
So it was more about the truth that resonated with you, and his message, rather than UFOs in the sky. Can you elaborate?
Clare: What struck me more than anything was that it was the truth I didn’t know I needed to hear.
I stopped watching the news maybe three or four years ago - stopped watching television in general, apart from dipping in and out of TV series. I even stopped listening to my favourite radio show in the morning (Chris Evans), because I didn’t want to accidentally hear the news. I had to unplug, because I felt such dissonance with what was being told, and I couldn’t understand it.
Once I started removing the “fake news,” I began to develop a really strong barometer for what felt true to me. I realised I wasn’t allergic to the news, I just needed to hear things that felt true. What I was being served in the media didn’t feel true. So it became all about truth: what feels true? And that’s when I came across Greer.
And that experience with Greer up on his land, how did it make you feel at the time, and what did you take away from it?
Clare: We spent, six hours a day in lectures—something like 30 hours of lectures over the event. I could have stayed another week, because the resonant quality of truth was so refreshing. I could have just sat in that frequency for another week. That’s what struck me more than anything—not the nitty-gritty of what he was talking about so much as: this feels real to me.
Has CE5 changed your understanding of reality or consciousness in any way?
Clare: One of the things that always put me off the UFO topic was the idea they were travelling through linear time to get here. That didn’t make sense to me. I didn’t understand that that was what wasn’t making sense until Greer talked about them moving through time and space.
And then, sitting in my back garden with a very narrow aperture of sky and seeing things happen thinking, “How do they know where I am? How do they know I can only see this small amount?” again it brought up that reality isn’t what we think it is.
It’s like they’re doing something to my mind so I can see it, rather than them travelling through time and space to arrive over my back garden.
That’s really interesting. Because when we’ve done it together, we’ve both looked up in the same direction at the same time and seen anomalous phenomena - a big flash, a shooting star, a craft phasing in. It’s happened many times, both of us looking at exactly the same moment - while we’ve been having a natter…
Clare: Yeah.
…or grabbing a biscuit.
Clare: haha Yes!!!!
I’m going to put you on the spot: you mentioned Greer and space-time. What’s your understanding of how they manifest into our reality, and how they come into our sight when we’re out doing CE5?
Clare: I think what we imagine to be reality - the 3D, like “this is a table, this is a laptop” is a projection of our consciousness.
The more we develop our spiritual side - the ascension process, developing the rainbow light body - the more we can ascend through awareness and understand that all of this is a construct. It just feels very real.
So they’re able to connect with us through that mirage or matrix. They’ve evolved in consciousness to a point where they can do that for themselves and for others. That’s how I see it.
What do you believe is the wider purpose of CE5? What’s happening?
Clare: I think CE5 is here to wake people up. I think we live in the ultimate cult. We’ve been indoctrinated to believe “this story,” and we don’t know what reality is.
We’re so far removed from our ancestors - people who lived on the land, worked with seasons, communicated with nature, and had more direct, conscious contact with Source and with consciousness. We’ve moved far away from that.
I think they’re materialising into 3D to wake us up and remind us that we - the people - can remember who we really are, irrespective of those in control who’ve tried to indoctrinate us into thinking we’re here to serve them. We’ve forgotten we’re here to serve ourselves because we are all Source and not here to serve the agendas of others.
That’s what they’re here to remind us. And that’s why it’s demonised and scandalised and people sound crazy if they talk about it. It’s a very clever psyop to misrepresent what’s actually true.
Can anyone do this?
Clare: Anyone can do it. You just must be open-minded. I always say: you have to see to believe, and believe to see. It’s a conundrum, you’ve got to believe you’re going to see it in order to see it. Then once you see it, you can believe it.
It’s celebrating the smallest flashes in the sky, the smallest orb phasing in and out - building on that, being excited, joyful, and having fun with it. And respecting the process, because it’s mind-blowing to think they’re going to all that trouble to connect with us.
So yes, anyone can do it, but you must be in the right mindset. Otherwise, if you’re like “Prove it to me”—they’re not here to prove anything.
Greer talks about that a lot. They’re (the ETs) not “show ponies”. They’re not there to put on a show. But if you go out with the right intentions, amazing stuff can happen such as physical phenomena, wonderful lights in the sky and also internal experiences such as kundalini awakenings or energetic upgrades…
These contact events can go on well into the night and into the next day. Sometimes it’s a couple of days later where you get the understanding—where it makes sense.
Clare: Yes, Things don't always make sense at the time. The same is true when I channel or when I’m working with somebody, I go into a slightly altered state, so I don’t always remember specifics afterwards.
If I see someone again later, or once I get back into that state—tuning into their energy—I remember. In psychology they call it state-dependent remembering. I have to get into a similar state to remember the details.
So if we’re talking about the general populace, can anyone have these experiences? Or do you feel you’ve had heightened experiences because of your gifts and intuition?
Clare: I think we can all have experiences in life that crack us open. People often talk about psychics becoming psychic after trauma - small or large trauma - that opens up sensitivities so you can see beyond the 3D matrix.
Some people are born sensitive. Some crack open when they’re young; some when they’re older. A near-death experience, an accident, a car crash - something that shocks them out of their body - and suddenly they see beyond this realm.
So yes, anyone can do it. Some people are more sensitive than they realise. Oftentimes it’s the people who are most resistant - “Definitely not for me” - who are actually very sensitive and have built a wall to it. It’s challenging them so much that they resist. So it can be the people you least expect who turn out to be the most gifted.
And what does it actually mean when these experiences happen? How can CE5 benefit somebody day-to-day?
Clare: It benefits people because you realise there’s more to life. It’s important to break down what we think we know and what we’ve been told.
We’ve been told a very specific construct of reality. Even from school - like the history we’re taught. “They rolled stones for Stonehenge on logs” - it doesn’t make any sense. But we accept it because we learned it at school, told our parents, and they were told the same.
So this crazy version of reality has been spun for so long that we’re all buying into it.
CE5 and thinking outside the box - helps us question things: our autonomy, our sovereignty, who we really are, and what we’re really here to do on the planet. It’s part of a much wider picture.
Yes, it’s fun. And if you go into it with an open heart (not “prove it” energy) and engage in contact, there’s a lot of joy and unconditional love because they’re of a higher frequency. The contact experience is spiritually elevating. And all of that reminds us who we are and why we’re here.
It’s not the be-all and end-all. It’s a flag to wake us up to our potential.
How do you prepare for CE5 on the day, or the week leading up to ?
Clare: I like to meditate and focus on being as open, receptive, and heart-centred as possible.
If I know in advance there’s going to be a CE5, I’ll meditate for myself and for the cohesion of the group, setting the intention that everyone is at ease and spacious and comfortable with each other—because that’s important.
If I’m at home and I get the intuition to go outside, I’ll follow it. I’ll go outside, meditate, sit quietly, and ask: “I’m open for contact if it’s safe for you and safe for us to do so.”
So it depends whether it’s a group thing or an individual thing.
Why do you think this is happening now? Why are so many people becoming interested and why are we seeing more phenomena ? Why now?!!!!
Clare: Because it’s time. We’re in a pivotal time on the planet.
When I was little, one of my first thoughts was, “Why am I here at this time? It’s a terrible time to be alive. There are going to be disasters. I don’t want to be here—why am I here?” That’s unusual for a five-, six-, seven-year-old. But I had this sense it wasn’t a good time to be here.
By my 20s that changed. There was more ease in my system, it felt like, “Actually, it’s not going to be as catastrophic as it could have been. There’s been a shift. The light is winning.” It’s going to be choppy and not straightforward, but it’s not as end-of-times as I felt when I was younger.
So there’s been a progression in the right direction on this timeline. And what happens on Earth affects the rest of the cosmos—it’s not just planetary.
What happens here affects time and space throughout different civilisations in ways we don’t understand.
That’s what feels true to me. So I feel like our intergalactic brothers and sisters are sitting with their popcorn, watching what unfolds.
Greer talks about a critical mass 1% being in a higher frequency, which ripples out and raises consciousness for everyone. I think we’re reaching that point.
People are waking up. The indoctrination of “this story” as reality. People are starting to feel, “This doesn’t feel right.” If I’m looking for truth, this doesn’t feel true. So what does feel true? That’s an individual journey for all of us. And I think we’re being invited to do that now.
Where do you see the CE5 path taking you next?
Clare: I don’t know, I’m open to wherever it takes me. I’m definitely open to developing contact, having more conscious contact, and perhaps more direct communication—helping myself develop my ability to contact, and encouraging and supporting other people to do it too. I think it’s really fun.
When I first started doing CE5 properly via the protocol I’d already seen a couple of things—so I wanted to see more. I thought, “If I can see that without trying, what if I put my mind to it? What’s possible?”
And then it evolves. Some evenings you see multiple things—one night we saw 60 flashes in the sky. Other nights, I saw 22 shooting stars and 30 flashes. And then a flotilla we’d seen on the horizon - multiple craft phasing in and out as light orbs.
To go from not knowing what to do to that point feels phenomenal and really exciting. The more people can share the excitement and joy of it, the better.
Do you think it’s been a coordinated journey or a gradual process into seeing something larger? How do you see that?
Clare: Yes, I think it’s a co-creation process. You’ve got to see to believe, and believe to see.
Each incremental step is validated by sharing it with other people, or seeing it multiple times and accepting it. Sometimes it happens in a blink, and your mind wants to go, “Oh, I made it up.”
But when you share it “Did you see that flash?” it anchors it. Like you said, when we both turned to look in a certain direction and something happened: why were we both randomly looking there at the same time?
So, it’s co-creative. There’s encouragement from our intergalactic brothers and sisters to develop our awareness and sensibilities. And I couldn’t have imagined getting to the point of ultimately seeing the pyramid-shaped craft rotating.
You can’t make or force that. You just have to be open, allow it to flow, and get out of the way.
If someone is just beginning their contact journey, what advice would you give them?
Clare: Use Greer’s app. It’s a great protocol and it gives structure, it’s tried and tested, and it’s a process that the intergalactic brothers and sisters are familiar with. It’s a good way to become part of a community. Then you can evolve it into whatever works for your personal contact. But it’s a great starting point.
Earlier, you talked of “ channeling”. Tell us more about yourself and what you do.
Clare: I always find it really hard to answer that question.
I trained to be a shiatsu practitioner, and that opened me up to working as a healer- although I didn’t realise it at the time. During the three-year course, my teachers said to me, “You’re unwinding meridians with your mind, and you’re working beyond the scope of what we can teach you.” I didn’t know what they were talking about.
It took me on a journey to meet various healers and learn from them - overall, actually how not to do things, which is quite interesting. But it showed me I needed to find and tap into what was unfolding for me by myself and through my own dream state, and not be taught formally, because I found that a lot of people run modalities through their own personality construct.
So I needed to understand what was coming through to me in the purest sense, without filtering it through a modality.
I would have dreams where I was sitting with a Spirit Guide and being taught how to work with certain things. Then in real life someone would come to see me with an issue that related directly to the dream tutorial I had been having. That way I knew that the work I was doing and the support I was offering was coming directly from Spirit and with that strong link to Spirit came a natural ability to channel.
I was hosting meditations and development circles. In those, I would guide meditations, and I’d just trust the words were coming. I didn’t know what the meditation was going to be. I just tuned in and spoke to words that came to me, I would know what the meditation was going to be about until it started and it just unfolded in my mind as I started. The more I did this the more I realised that the words coming through were more than simple meditations they were guidance. At this point I realised I'd moved in channelling without really being conscious that's what was unfolding.
So you’re a channel, and psychic. What else do you do?
Clare: Healing. I work with energy, like a conductor works with an orchestra. I can work with energy within people’s bodies, in spaces, within organisations. within any kind of matrix and help harmonise it.
Sometimes I’ll be talking to somebody and suddenly my fingers pinch, and I’m like, “Oh there’s some alignment that needs to happen.” Often I’m not consciously aware of what exactly it’s doing. It’s just finding a point that’s misaligned, or a frequency that’s out of balance, and bringing harmony back into the person, the relationship, the dynamic, or the space. It’s harmonising. I work with energetic harmonics.
You often refer to “Spirit”. Please can you explain.
Clare: I think we all sit in a field of consciousness, and we can connect into Source consciousness for information, or we can connect into individuations between us and Source. But all roads lead to Rome -they’re of a greater or lesser frequency.
If something’s a really high frequency, you’re talking direct Source. If something isn’t as high as Source but is on that trajectory, that’s what we might call an individuation. So we might have a spirit guide, or a loved one who’s passed over - no longer in this reality or density - higher frequency.
Higher frequencies are like a ladder you go up. Different spirits can be sitting on different rungs of the ladder, which is why you want to make sure you’re speaking to something higher than you, not something lower - because there’s no value in that.
So when you refer to Spirit, is it often one guide you have - or would there be many different guides that come in at different times?
Clare: Many different guides at different times. “Spirit” is like a collective noun. So often it can be a collective that speaks, or a group of spirits at a certain frequency with a certain message, and they pull together. I use “Spirit” as a collective noun to encompass all of the above.
And how does that compare to what people call their higher self?
Clare: It’s consciousness, higher consciousness. It can be a version of yourself at a higher frequency, or other energies at a higher frequency. But eventually it all goes back to Source, and it’s all one. That’s how I see it.
How do your gifts impact CE5? Does it bring another element to it?
Clare: For me, I’d say these intergalactic brothers and sisters are of a higher consciousness. They sit somewhere on the spectrum between us in 3D and Source. To me, they’re like a physical representation of what I call Spirit - the collective noun of everything above us.
Greer has said some of them can be akin to the angelic realm. So they’re higher frequency consciousness , but they’re able to interact with our 3D reality more visibly than something that is pure Spirit.
So my interest in CE5 is that it’s visible contact with a higher consciousness that’s trying to impact us currently if that makes sense?
I want to ask a bit more about you and your healing. How long have you been involved in that work? How did you get into it - was it something you’ve always done, or did it come later?
Clare: I always imagined that when I grew up I’d be a psychotherapist, because I saw myself sitting in front of people and talking, and that seemed reasonable.
When I was working as a picture editor for a newspaper in London, I decided it was time to train as a psychotherapist. But the hours and deadlines didn’t fit.
I’d started receiving shiatsu as a client and it really intrigued me - energy work, bodywork. So I decided to embark on a three-year course learning it. That’s what started to open me up.
As I said earlier, the teachers were like, “You’re unwinding meridians with your mind, we can’t teach you this.” I didn’t know what they meant. That became my way in to explore how I could use my ability to help people in a container that made sense.
But I’d always had it. Even at university, people would corner me and tell me their whole life story. I could sometimes guess the word they were trying to find. I could see patterns, where they were - and explain it. I could sense the energy of the people around them and how it all connected. I thought everyone could do that. I didn’t realise it wasn’t necessarily something everyone could do.
How quickly did these abilities develop once you consciously made the decision to go down the path of shiatsu and energy work?
Clare: It was quick.
I was working in London, did the shiatsu training. By the time I finished the three years, I’d left London, sold my flat, moved out to the middle of nowhere. Back then it took ages to get satellite TV installed—I had about three months of no television, living on the edge of a forest, walking every day.
I had a breakdown/breakthrough period where I cracked wide open. Everything had to realign to allow a level of light into my system, so I could work with it and share it with others.
It was a brutal awakening process, but it stood me in good stead moving forward. I was seeing people for shiatsu, immediately started development circles, and started channeling messages for people. It all happened quickly.
Then I met a guy studying at the Guildford School of Acting. He was American, from California, and he said, “I really like your work. I’m sure there are people in America who would appreciate guidance from you. Whenever you want to come just come.”
I thought, “When am I ever going to go to America? That seems crazy.” Then I woke up one day with a thought: “Wouldn’t you like to wake up in the sunshine every day?”
By that time I’d left my job, finished my qualifications, and I found people weren’t really coming for shiatsu—they were coming for healing. So I went to the States, and it became my training ground. I experienced a whole host of things I wouldn’t have in England—this life, past life, relational trauma, work trauma, past-life injuries—just a huge range.
Because the Bay Area is so open and people are open to healing, I was able to really refine my craft there.
What else have you got going on at the moment?
Clare: I work out of a clinic in Godalming and I do a lot of online sessions. I travel back and forth to the States, and each trip is different - different adventures. One day I’d love to live at least part-time in the States. It feels like it’s been on the cards for a long time but hasn’t manifested yet, so I’m open to that unfolding in a way I can’t imagine yet.
I’ve finished my book and I’m looking for a publisher - though I might self-publish.
What’s the book about?
Clare: It’s called The Rise of the Reluctant Psychic. It’s basically my journey from “I don’t understand any of this, it doesn’t make sense” to being here talking to you about UFOs.
It’s my journey of opening up psychically and dealing with my own personality construct, me as Clare being like, “What?!”—while it was bubbling up from a young age. I had to get out of the way and allow it to happen.
I hope it encourages people to trust their intuition. I speak about my resistance and the thoughts I had “This is ridiculous, who am I?” and I hope that mirrors what readers might be thinking, so they give themselves the freedom to tune into their own intuition.
“Psychic” is a huge umbrella term. I use the word because it sounds scary, but it can be simple things like knowing someone’s going to ring before they ring, thinking about someone and later learning they’ve been going through something. It’s a broad spectrum, and we can all develop it.
Just a couple of quick points for readers who are interested in developing their own spiritual or psychic gifts. Where should they start?
Clare: I know this is unpopular, but start by meditating.
When I say meditating, people go, “Ahh, I have to sit and think of nothing.” But what I’m inviting people to do is become the observer of their mind.
Spend ten minutes in silence observing the thoughts that come in: “Oh, I’m thinking about that again.” You’re flexing the muscle of observation. And you realise: “Hang on...if I’m observing my thoughts, I’m not my thoughts.”
That awareness creates spaciousness where intuition can come in. You can get off the freeway of your thoughts and be alongside them. And being alongside them opens you to impressions, intuitions, and guidance from your higher self, from consciousness, from Spirit guides, from the angelic realm.
Set the intention that any guidance you receive is for your highest good and the highest good of others, so you’re not wasting time with low-vibrational rabbit holes. You create space, and within that space you invite high-vibrational input.
Wonderful. And where can people find your work?
Clare: They can find me on my website, or they can listen to the podcast, The Rise of the Reluctant Psychic
References / links:
Danica Patrick - https://www.danicapatrick.com/danica
Elizabeth April - https://elizabethapril.com/all-videos/
Dr Steven Greer - https://drstevengreer.com/
Bashar - https://www.bashar.org/
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